By Gary J. Gabehart
Well, RHF had a great research meeting. The Sky didn't fall. I think that with the new [RHF] Starks, Pitkin, Leesville and Lake Charles area members the word that the West Coast Gay Fellow, Raymond Alexander Bridges, had been pumping out, just did not fly. He was a faux Redbone to begin with, and that, coupled with the West Coast Gay Guy "act up" Stigma (according to Ray) and the recent San Francisco Church incident (not that Ray was the one in the clown suit), may have been the reason for the cancellation of his Starks event. I don't really know, but good for Starks if that was the reason!
Well, let me show you his tone -- sour grapes -- but then, what can you expect from a wild and crazy guy like Ray:
The last time a bunch of know-it-all assholes called a bunch of us Redbones it ended in a gunfight. That was in 1892. KPLC's general manager, Jim Serra, thought he would focus attention on our people, so in a blog posting entitled Mysterious People, or some such nonsense, he glossed over our 200 year history and set the stage for the outlaws of the Redbone Heritage Foundation to spout their crap as if they were experts on our people, the Redbones of southwest Louisiana.
He presented Don Marler as an expert because of Marler's self-published book on Louisiana Redbones. You know the book. The one where Marler suggests that Redbones have African in their genetic admixture, never mind that we have steadfastly denied that possibility for over 200 years.
Marler's book is so laden with mistakes and phony conclusions that it doesn't even deserve mention.
The other "expert" Serra gave credence to was Gary Gabeheart who still presents himself out to be some sort of Amerindian. He's got The Card. I have known Indians all my life, and Gabeheart is the first one I've ever known to go around bragging about having "the card." Of course, no one ever saw his card. That's why I made him one. Now the next time someone asks him about it, he can show them this: (Ray's Goofy Card)
Yes, I was asked about the card and yes, I passed it around the room and yes, it is the same Sovereign Nation Card that Ray asked to see in Richmond and was shown -- dumb "tu tybo."
So was it the threats by Larry or the threats by Ray Bridges, a high profile California Supreme Court Employee (according to Ray Bridges) that prompted the Calcasieu Parish to post armed law-enforcement at the Library? We still don't know for sure, as these professional lawmen were closed mouthed -- but when, "not if," the man comes knocking on some doors West of Calcasieu, I would like to be the fly on the wall to listen to the stuttering explanations. Terroristic threats are not taken lightly in this day and age, especially to local government law and order.
Ray Bridges and his fellow travelers owe Jim Serra, Sheriff and law-enforcement an apology. I'm outraged and you should be as well.
Our Research conference/meeting was small and limited to 50 people. It was not a Membership Meeting to which formal notification must be given. But of course, the meeting was open to anyone who was civil and respectful to the library. Registration, membership dues, book sales had all been handled in advance and a hospitality room was provided at the Isle of Capri for the three days. So Terry Jackson should not have worried about anything.
Lake Charles is the center of a very historic area, and it was good to be home as this was the area where my Drakes, Goin[g]s, Nash, Ashworth, Bass, Clark, Dial, Doyle, Abshire, Ryan, Rigmaiden, Hargrave and others originated in their Westward trek.
The RHF votes for the removal of Ray Bridges as Vice President and Catherine Davidson as a board member and acceptance of new by-laws for the organization should be in soon, tallied, certified by an independent auditor and presented maybe next week.
It is not for sure where the Membership meeting for this year will be held as that could happen anywhere in the country, even by mail I understand. As soon as their Board [RHF] releases that information, I'll pass it along.
It will be interesting to see what LV Hayes has to write for KPLC. Stay tuned.
Best,
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho (Mish-eh-ho)
Mishiho@aol.com
Sunday, October 21, 2007
Tuesday, October 16, 2007
# 59 -- THREATS BY LARRY KEELS? BLATHER BY TERRY JACKSON?
By Gary J. Gabehart
See what classy people we have out there from the Rage and Hate Society of LV Hayes, Larry Bridges and Raymond Keels. Ugh, nasty!
Larry says:
I suppose the truth does hurt. It certainly seems something Bev and I stated has pricked Gabehart's pretentions [sp.].
No one attending the scheduled event in Lake Charles need be expecting an appearance by me. I have clearly stated my belief that RHF is a failed experiment which was usurped for a misquided [sp] book promotion/public relations agenda rather than family history research as initially intended.
I don't even think anyone should expect a visit from Rev. River Scott, the Imperial Wizard of the Louisiana White Knights. I think even he realizes "redbone" was merely a racist epithet common among that sector of the population in which Don Marler was raised and is otherwise meaningless.
The minimal research which has proceeded clearly indicates this archaic term was seldom used in polite company until recently ressurrected {sp} by naive genealogy hobbyists on the internet [sp] at Don Marler's urging.
Larry
Posted by: Larry Keels October 16, 2007 at 05:18 PM KPLC-TV
Reply to Larry:
Larry? Still no response about [your] credentials, but we have been patient and you have finally shown your true self. White Knights and Rev. River Scott? Do you now claim to speak for Rev. Scott? You and Beverly who have so many close Black friends?
By Terry Jackson:
Exposing the lies put out by just a few members of the RHF, reminds me of having to put out the wood fires that are set here in SW Louisiana ever spring and fall. You put out the truth to stop the lies and low and behold another one pops up in a different place. Then it is off we go again to put that one out,The latest set of lies set by ole gabe on 10-13-07 is just another example of how he is so blatantly ignorant of something or maybe at his age he just doesn't realize what he is talking about. First, Ray never appointed a committie [sp] of non RHF members and moved the conference from Lake Charles to Starks. {Fact}, there was such a great responce [sp] from the local folks about getting together,visiting and eating. We all agreeded [sp] that would be a good thing and as far as the RHF, you could go and do what ever you do any where you wanted to. But our families would have a get together at Starks, as we say here in SW La.Second, gabe stated, from then own Bev and Terry decided to hold the conference without the RHF at the local VFW hall complete with alcohol and cigaretts [sp]. {Fact} While I know Bev, I have not seen or visited with her in person or on the phone in about FIVE years. Only spoke through e-mail with her for the first time in the past two weeks. Once again, we all decidied [sp] it would be a family gathering for our families here in SW La. Not a conference with, without or for the RHF. What part of that last sentence do you not understand gabe? Need a picture or drawing to explain it to you? Oh and the alcohol and cigaretts [sp] in Starks, you mean the very same type and ones they had in Alexandia [sp] and Nacogdoches at those conferences??Next lie, same as above. Bev and I taking over and moving the RHF conference to Starks. {Explanation} See the one above. That means look up gabe.The last one I wish to address is this. He states that Bev and I were both booked at the 2006 confeence [sp] and was a no show, without as much as a phone call. Then blathered something about childish activity. {FACT] I have no idea what happen with Beverly not being there in 2006. Again I haven't seen her in five years. But gabe, not only was I booked in 2006, I was also booked in 2005. In speaking with Don Marler, I asked what was expected of us during our session. He stated there were three of us scheduled to give a presentation. Lasting one hour. When my wife and I arrivied [sp], the two others didn't show up. Don said I could go on if I could carry the whole hour. I wasn't prepraied [sp] for that. I was prepared just for my alloted [sp[ 20 minutes. SO [cap] I option [gr] out until the next year. {By the way, ask Don how he liked the Cow Hide chair I made him and gave to him in Alexandria, you know, At another of the conferences where I didn't show up}. As far as 2006, I was again scheduled, the evening before the conference we had an unexpted [sp] death we had to deal with. I made the call myself to the hotel where everone [sp] was staying, I had them page Don Marler and Ray Bridges, neither answered the page. The manager took the message I confirmed with the manager that I could call back to confirm the message were delivered to both parties. Two hours later, it was confirmed.One more bit of advise gabe about your statement of the sugar and special diets needed by folks like you. Ever heard of putting a few Equal, Splenda or Sweet and Low in your pocket just in case. It works. One more bit of advice about your special diet. You made the statement on your blog, bragging about how good the food was at The Boiling Point in Sulphur, La and how much you loved it. While it is great food, If your eating that food, keep it up and you won't need special diets much longer.gabe, as you have been asked to do numerours [sp] times, get your story straight, lies in order or what ever it is you do, before you post such obviousmade [sp] up junk.Terry Jackson
Posted by: Terry Jackson October 16, 2007 at 04:35 PM
KPLC BLOG
Well, at least we know Terry Jackson was not an English Major. Rather a paranoid rant, don't you think -- by a fellow who can't spell and knows nothing about what he is talking about.
Gabe replies:
READ MY LIPS TERRY! I do not care what you folks do down at Starks! Get my drift? I do care about you involving yourself in the RHF Conference that you claim not to want to get involved in. Wakeup! Dingbat!
By Beverly Jackson
As I said, that is Sandra's story, and I don't know all the details... And since I had posted a comment on another blog before I did yours, and it showed up, I don't know why you would suppose that I cannot follow directions. It did tell me that the comment had been sent but that the owner would have the decision of whether to post it or not. Maybe it is YOU that cannot follow simple directions. What do I stand to lose by lying about it?
bev
Posted by: Beverly Jackson aka bevAnnie
October 16, 2007 at 09:50 PM KPLC-TVGabe Reply:
What does a left coaster in San Francisco, who was born West of the Sabine and hasn't been back in 50 years by his own admission know about "his people?" Of course, you do have LV Hayes beat, he has not been back, so I've heard, in 60 years.
Ray Bridges is a phony who is jealous and can only throw rocks on the roof and then scurry into the darkness when the porch light comes on.
Why don't you put some proof on the table of what you say rather than to blather (if I can borrow the word from Terry Jackson) about things you cannot support. That does appear to be what all you guys are doing is to trying to knock RHF every year and at every meeting.
I did hear that the membership votes are back, wonder what they have to say?
Brenda, I can only say "darling you should attempt to post again," this is the only post I have found over there:
"Wow, that rage and hate society needs to be shut down. And who cares who's blacker or whiter than who, and who lives where? Some of those twats claiming you're an outsider and that kids from somewhere are not smart and all that crap - well, it's obvious who really doesn't fit into society and who is not smart - and that would be these dimwit racists! They need to seriously get some kind of a life and grow up. Oh, and smart people don't start chain letters, and it's very common for haters like them to start and pass on propaganda forwards."
October 11, 2007 8:04 AM
So see, there are posts getting through -- I suggest you try again.
Best,
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho
Well Terry, what can I say -- I don't care what you do over at Starks, wear panty hose on your heads with spinning propellers -- I really do not care. Take it up with your cousin Ray Bridges.
And I think that if you arrive at the Lake Charles Library to start a commotion at a research meeting, I expect they will remove you pronto. As for the convoluted verbiage (I like that word, I'll exchange it for the use of your word Blather but I'm burned out on the use of epithet by Larry) I don't know what you are getting at -- no idea. Just spit it out.
Best,
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho
Holy Cow Society
Posted by: Gary J. Gabehart October 17, 2007 at 12:56 AM
KPLC BLOG
Lots of "stuff" to do in the morning. I'm headed for Lake Charles but I have to make some stops along the way before I get out of town. It should be an interesting research meeting even if LV, Terry, Larry and Bev. claim to want to spoil it. That seemed to be the only reasons for their posts on KPLC that I can see -- and believe me, others do as well.
Check out the blogs of Jim Serra on KPLC-TV. We pulled no punches on the Rage and Hate Society. More from Lake Charles this week.
Best,
Gary J Gabehart, Mishiho (Mish-eh-ho)
Mishiho@Aol.com
Friday, October 12, 2007
# 58 -- RAGE BY REDBONE PETTIFOGGERS
By Gary J. Gabehart
As Bill O'Reilly might opine, do not be a Pettifogger.
Past few weeks, the minions of malcontents Ray Bridges and LV Hay have begun a campaign to up turn the RHF. Ray of course knows the end is in sight for his officership as Vice President of RHF, and since RHF has gone to electronic meetings and ballot voting, it has been a trying time for Ray. (Ray's position is up this year if he is not voted out prior to that time)
A number of months ago, Ray Bridges, as Vice President, was asked by Stacy Webb if he would check out Lake Charles, Louisiana for a Research Conference site (I had resigned as the Chair of the planning Committee and felt that position should change hands yearly). Ray, as Vice President, accepted Stacy's request and told everyone he would get back to the Board.
Next thing you know, Ray had appointed a committee of non RHF members, against the very By-Laws he had recently approved, and moved the Research Conference from Lake Charles to Starks, Louisiana.
At first, he was indulged by individual Board Members but seemed to fly into a fit with every question as to what he was doing. The straw that broke the camel's back was when I pointed out the food service would have to accommodate salt and sugar sensitive folks and persons on special diets, and -- cigarette smoking was out for many people. Ray did not want to accommodate the RHF membership in any way and flew into a rage. I advised him that he had to build his consensus with the Board, --not non-members.
From Ray. 5/31/2007
May be a good way of weeding out some of the chaff.
"Without being terribly indifferent to the sufferings of S.J., I'm terribly indifferent to the sufferings of S.J. and others incapable of flexibility. We're not running a restaurant, we're offering food. I'm sure some people will prefer to furnish their own, as would I if I even attempted to accommodate half of the list you just offered."
"Those are details that are not on my radar yet, and probably won't be until a few weeks before any gathering now contemplated."
Mishiho@aol.com wrote:
We have a number of serious salt free members
Diabetics, sugar -- substitute Splenda in cakes, pies, etc.
Serious Cigarette smoke issues
Members who will walk if alcohol is present
Members who will not go near gaming
GGabe A Texas Chickasaw Indian at War
Now tell me, what does it take to put Sweet & Low on the Table and just not salt up the food?
From this point on it was his cousins (Beverly Jackson and Terry Jackson) who had decided to hold the Conference without RHF in the local VFW hall complete with alcohol and cigarettes.
From Ray Bridges, 6/13/2007
- "I'm pulling out of the RHF. I don't have time for that kind of bullshit. "My cousins don't want the RHF to have anything to do with their meeting." They don't need someone they don't know and who isn't one of them, talk shit and feel they have to defend or explain it."
The rest is history!
This week, after listening to the Raves and Rants of Larry, Ray, and LV Hay, I returned some questions to Larry and Beverly Jackson -- below is the following.
LARRY BRIDGES, you said:
“Clark Ashworth, a nineteenth century resident of Jefferson County, TX is the descendant of James Ashworth and Keziah Dial and is on public record as self identifying as ‘Portaghee’.”
"Need I remind you that many mixed blood peoples came out of the Portuguese colonies of western Africa and although identifying as 'Portaghee,' were in fact E3B Western African. I do not doubt what you say about Clark Ashworth being on record but how can one verify that record."
Next Larry, you write:
“Gabehart, I thought you were a qualified researcher. Maybe Cyndie, the cultural historian, can assist if you can discover nothing on this archaic racist epithet.” (racist epithet is Larry's favorite word)
"Amazing that you cannot answer the simple question of your take on 'ebo shine.' You brought the word in here, yet you cannot answer the question -- any question for that matter! What does that word have to do with Redbones in your mind?"
"You are not getting out of this easily Larry by not being able to answer the question – tell us what YOU mean by the use of that word."
BEVERLY, you said:
“My biggest gripe is not necessarily what's being done to research them, but how some of this is being presented. If you want to win a dog over to your side, you don't force him to be your friend, you first win his trust.”
"WHY WOULD I WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYONE THAT IS BEHAVING IN THAT MANNER???"
"The whine of this tone begs the answer, -- before being wanted or invited, the invitation has to be extended. If it is not offered, perhaps there never was intent to be inclusive in the first place. Maybe it just never made a difference to any one other than you. If you do not want to be included, that has been amply conveyed, over the years by you, and in ALL your posts, and it is time to move on."
Beverly said:
“Maybe I'm just a little on the defensive here because of some of the other comments that have been made lately.”
"Surely, you will recall, you did not pay your $10.00 DUES to RHF in 2005 or the $10.00 DUES in 2006, a mere pittance, yet you wished to chair the RHF planning committee."
"The reason why the conference was not held in Lake Charles in 2006 is because you failed to put it together, and when asked about your membership dues, 'by me,' of $10.00 in 2006 you resigned and dumped the planning on me – that is the venom of vipers you speak of, but it was really an affront by you -- to {members who did} supporting RHF members."
"In 2007, according to your cousin Ray Bridges, it was your decision and Terry Jackson to take over the RHF Conference in Lake Charles, exclude RHF (?) and move it to Starks. Why would you think that RHF would entertain that?"
"For the 2005 Conference, you booked out as a presenter and then was a no show without so much as a phone call. In 2006, both YOU and TERRY JACKSON booked out as speakers and failed to show, again without so much as a thank you. Childish activity don’t cha think? Now you wish again for the world to revolve around you, yet you have contributed no research, and none to the RHF archives that I am aware of. I mention this as you speak a great deal of innuendo toward RHF and me as having put upon you when the complete story has not yet been told of your activity."
"It has never been 'your side, our side of things' by RHF. We simply are not interested in a side-playing thing that you speak of. We are a research organization, and we do not do our research hanging over the back fence."
I suppose that the Cajuns went through this same stuff. In some respects, the Redbones in terms of a timeline are but a half a day behind the Cajuns and catching up fast. The major problems now are the jealousy of some and the fear of others that they will turn up something in their family history they do not want to hear.
Those words are Colored, African, Slave, Negro and a few back pocket words that Larry Keels carries around, such as, his flaunted "ebo shine," any idea what it means?
In the early 1800's, officially, we only had two types of people in country (Louisiana) Africans (Blacks, Slaves) and Whites, but we did have off to the side, "Free People of Color," and in 1810 they also were counted. Now before I go any further, let me state that Indians were Indians, and they were just ignored.
The Free People of Color were anything and everything that was not Black, White and often not pure Indian. FPC likely included darker ethnicity's from perhaps, Germany, India, China, Middle East, Portuguese, Moors, Turks and you name it -- even mixed blood Indians.
Legal terms included the term Mulatto, and FPC was shortened to Colored over the years. Now we are only talking 200-300 years, a very short time for many folks who remember days when they could not walk where the White folks walked because they might be taken for Black rather than Indian, Colored, Italian or any mix in between.
Once you cross the color line, it's tough for many to look back -- doesn't mean anything to be just colored, it is "what if we have a Black gene" and someone finds out. Yet, 70% of White folks in this country do not carry any Black genes, yet the old fears of being classed in a so called lower group of people lives on.
If it bothers you that much, either track your genealogy and match it up with a DNA test or put it down and walk away. You cannot have it both ways, yet history is history -- you are who you are.
Do I have a Black component? At this time, our family has only found the Indian component in my bloodline. However, we have had family members with Black components, and I suggest that every family has them -- they just may not be in your bloodline. Do I think I will find that Black gene someday -- I don't know, anything is possible.
At this time, Black components have been found in the Ashworth/Droddy line by Ray Bridges as well as some Nash lines. Does that mean that all Ashworth, Droddy and Nash have a Black ethnicity like Ray Bridges is trying to push on everyone -- No, it does not.
In a recent friendly note from Ray:
"Dear A-- Wipes,
I did hear that there was a bunch of good ol' boys in Starks that wanted to talk to you creeps about just how Black you think the Redbones around Starks are. I told them that y'all be happy to meet them at the VFW Hall in Starks the evening of October 19. No, seriously, they're looking forward to you explaining to them why you think they're Black.
S--t, you mother f--kers, if you thought they hated Gays, wait till you see how they react to being told you think they're part Black. That is what you said, isn't it?"
That Ray, he is such a kidder.
Best,
GARY J. GABEHART, MISHIHO (Mish-eh-ho)
MISHIHO@AOL.COM
Tuesday, October 9, 2007
# 57 -- REPLY TO BRIDGET ROY OF LV HAYES SITE
By Gary J. Gabehart
Last week, I was showered with email forwards from the LV Hayes Rage & Hate Society. LV, all I can say is you should fire everyone and start over. I'm getting stuff from at least five or maybe six people on your site and not knowing (or carrying to know) how many people are on your site, I can only say I have no idea of the negative impact. Is there anyone over there who loves you?
Here is some of the chatter from the Rage & Hate Society. The following was inserted by Ray Bridges: "I spoke with a teacher from Sulphur just this past May. She claims to never have heard the term Redbone, but she had heard that the kids in Starks weren't very bright. There's nothing as harmful as the soft bigotry of lowered expectations. Because I consider Redbones to be a real, physical group of people with an interesting history and complex social needs born out of generations of poverty and ignorance, I think any decision concerning those people needs to have their participation. I do not limit the definition of Redbones to my cousins in Louisiana. I will point out that there is only one group of people outside of Louisiana who have ever been called Redbones by themselves or by others. There is no documentation of the word ever being used anywhere else.
Now Ray did not really clarify just what he meant by "the kids in Starks weren't very bright," maybe that is what he thinks? I would ask just what do you mean Ray by "I think any decision concerning 'those people' needs to have their participation." What decisions? Does Ray now think, like BevAnnie Jackson that they now speak for all Redbones?
From Larry Keels site, Larry writes the following that Ray Bridges and BevAnnie wrote (see the evil intent, word for word?) and tries to attribute the first part to Mr. Gabehart. The following has been altered by Terry Jackson.
"In a final insult from Mr. Gabehart, states, {I spoke with a teacher from Sulphur just this past May. She claims to never have heard the term Redbone, but she had heard that the kids in Starks weren't very bright. There's nothing as harmful as the soft bigotry of lowered expectations} Please realize this is just another lie promoted by him and these other people.
What a shame in this day and age, a grown man insulting innocent kids who know nothing of him and his group intentions of destroying our families and our history. Please forward! this to everone you know or care about. This is a attempt to destory or families and our history. Please contact KPLC, Lake Charles American Press and let them know just what you think of them promoting such people and events. Contact Sandy Treme and ask her to look into this and see if there is anything she can do to stop these folks from using our library to hold such a conference. {A Redbone Cousin}"
His library? Larry lives in Huntsville Texas and drives a butane truck. Does he deliver across State lines to the Lake Charles Library? Or was this all Terry Jackson's doing? If you read back to the beginning, you will see that this was Ray Bridges comment and Terry and Larry changed it and attributed it to yours truly. I don't know about Larry or maybe I do, but Terry is suppose to be this saintly church going guy.
RHF is a RESEARCH ORGANIZATION, come on, how many times do I have to repeat it Rage & Hate Fooba's? Do you think that anyone but the weak minded would believe the above dribble?
Well, looks like I was wrong. From Bridget Roy, cajunindian63@yahoo.com comes the following to Stacy Webb:
Received: from [209.12.34.8] by web55708.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:22:31 PDTDate: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:22:31 -0700 (PDT)From: Bridget Roy
Who are you and what are you trying to do to the louisiana redbones. Sister let me tell you right now I come from the Ashworth and Perkins' and there is NO BLACK BLOOD IN MY PEOPLE now if you outsiders want to claim to be part black that's your business. where is your proof that we are part black show me THE PROOF OR SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!!! No Black blood?
Now that is a real classy lady, don't ya think?
I replied as I had been sent the data by Ray Bridges:
Hey Roy,
I think you have been hoodwinked by Ray Bridges, he is the one claiming black blood. Ray is not going to like me sending this, but here is an email he sent me after getting the results of his mother's DNA report. As you know, we get half our blood from our mother and half from our father.
Ray is the one claiming to be Black from three different DNA reports. Here are the results of just one/two -- the others were given to Stacy Webb of the RHF -- guess Ray did not have the balls to do it himself publicly.
From Ray Bridges 7/8/2006:
"My mother got her test results. You will recall my DNA test suggested that I was 86% European, 11% native American, and 3% sub-Saharan African.
Mother's test, by the same people, Ancestry by DNA, said she was 83% European, 17% sub-Saharan African, and 0% native American.
I asked her if there was anything about our relationship that she needed to clarify, like for instance, Who is my real mother? She assures me that I'm hers. I'm going to call the good folks at Ancestry DNA on Monday and talk to them about the results. I don't know enough about DNA to do anything except argue the obvious."
At this point, Ray was going to contact them and he wrote me this and you can see my reply:
"Thanks for your interest and the additional information you've forwarded to me. My first exchange with Ancestry by DNA was completely unsatisfactory, so I wrote an email to someone within the company with whom I had a prior exchange. When she responds, I'll let you know the fuller explanation."
"Meanwhile, I've ordered two test kits from the National Geographic DNA Project to test mitacondrial DNA specifically."
Now Bridget, are you upset about being related to Ray Bridges a self-acclaimed Ashworth and cross dresser, or are you upset by possibly being part Black?
Some people's kids. I'm telling ya, some of these people are goofy but Bridget Roy appears to be the goofyest I've seen in a long time.
Best,
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho (Mish-eh-ho)
Mishiho@aol.com
Last week, I was showered with email forwards from the LV Hayes Rage & Hate Society. LV, all I can say is you should fire everyone and start over. I'm getting stuff from at least five or maybe six people on your site and not knowing (or carrying to know) how many people are on your site, I can only say I have no idea of the negative impact. Is there anyone over there who loves you?
Here is some of the chatter from the Rage & Hate Society. The following was inserted by Ray Bridges: "I spoke with a teacher from Sulphur just this past May. She claims to never have heard the term Redbone, but she had heard that the kids in Starks weren't very bright. There's nothing as harmful as the soft bigotry of lowered expectations. Because I consider Redbones to be a real, physical group of people with an interesting history and complex social needs born out of generations of poverty and ignorance, I think any decision concerning those people needs to have their participation. I do not limit the definition of Redbones to my cousins in Louisiana. I will point out that there is only one group of people outside of Louisiana who have ever been called Redbones by themselves or by others. There is no documentation of the word ever being used anywhere else.
Now Ray did not really clarify just what he meant by "the kids in Starks weren't very bright," maybe that is what he thinks? I would ask just what do you mean Ray by "I think any decision concerning 'those people' needs to have their participation." What decisions? Does Ray now think, like BevAnnie Jackson that they now speak for all Redbones?
From Larry Keels site, Larry writes the following that Ray Bridges and BevAnnie wrote (see the evil intent, word for word?) and tries to attribute the first part to Mr. Gabehart. The following has been altered by Terry Jackson.
"In a final insult from Mr. Gabehart, states, {I spoke with a teacher from Sulphur just this past May. She claims to never have heard the term Redbone, but she had heard that the kids in Starks weren't very bright. There's nothing as harmful as the soft bigotry of lowered expectations} Please realize this is just another lie promoted by him and these other people.
What a shame in this day and age, a grown man insulting innocent kids who know nothing of him and his group intentions of destroying our families and our history. Please forward! this to everone you know or care about. This is a attempt to destory or families and our history. Please contact KPLC, Lake Charles American Press and let them know just what you think of them promoting such people and events. Contact Sandy Treme and ask her to look into this and see if there is anything she can do to stop these folks from using our library to hold such a conference. {A Redbone Cousin}"
His library? Larry lives in Huntsville Texas and drives a butane truck. Does he deliver across State lines to the Lake Charles Library? Or was this all Terry Jackson's doing? If you read back to the beginning, you will see that this was Ray Bridges comment and Terry and Larry changed it and attributed it to yours truly. I don't know about Larry or maybe I do, but Terry is suppose to be this saintly church going guy.
RHF is a RESEARCH ORGANIZATION, come on, how many times do I have to repeat it Rage & Hate Fooba's? Do you think that anyone but the weak minded would believe the above dribble?
Well, looks like I was wrong. From Bridget Roy, cajunindian63@yahoo.com comes the following to Stacy Webb:
Received: from [209.12.34.8] by web55708.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:22:31 PDTDate: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:22:31 -0700 (PDT)From: Bridget Roy
Who are you and what are you trying to do to the louisiana redbones. Sister let me tell you right now I come from the Ashworth and Perkins' and there is NO BLACK BLOOD IN MY PEOPLE now if you outsiders want to claim to be part black that's your business. where is your proof that we are part black show me THE PROOF OR SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!!! No Black blood?
Now that is a real classy lady, don't ya think?
I replied as I had been sent the data by Ray Bridges:
Hey Roy,
I think you have been hoodwinked by Ray Bridges, he is the one claiming black blood. Ray is not going to like me sending this, but here is an email he sent me after getting the results of his mother's DNA report. As you know, we get half our blood from our mother and half from our father.
Ray is the one claiming to be Black from three different DNA reports. Here are the results of just one/two -- the others were given to Stacy Webb of the RHF -- guess Ray did not have the balls to do it himself publicly.
From Ray Bridges 7/8/2006:
"My mother got her test results. You will recall my DNA test suggested that I was 86% European, 11% native American, and 3% sub-Saharan African.
Mother's test, by the same people, Ancestry by DNA, said she was 83% European, 17% sub-Saharan African, and 0% native American.
I asked her if there was anything about our relationship that she needed to clarify, like for instance, Who is my real mother? She assures me that I'm hers. I'm going to call the good folks at Ancestry DNA on Monday and talk to them about the results. I don't know enough about DNA to do anything except argue the obvious."
At this point, Ray was going to contact them and he wrote me this and you can see my reply:
"Thanks for your interest and the additional information you've forwarded to me. My first exchange with Ancestry by DNA was completely unsatisfactory, so I wrote an email to someone within the company with whom I had a prior exchange. When she responds, I'll let you know the fuller explanation."
"Meanwhile, I've ordered two test kits from the National Geographic DNA Project to test mitacondrial DNA specifically."
Now Bridget, are you upset about being related to Ray Bridges a self-acclaimed Ashworth and cross dresser, or are you upset by possibly being part Black?
Some people's kids. I'm telling ya, some of these people are goofy but Bridget Roy appears to be the goofyest I've seen in a long time.
Best,
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho (Mish-eh-ho)
Mishiho@aol.com
Friday, October 5, 2007
# 56 -- THE INTERNET STALKERS OUT THERE -- LARRY?
By Gary J. Gabehart
Oh no Mr. Bill, Larry again? Ole Lester? The below letter is not new to me, once you sign off to Larry’s list, he will use you, and he will not release you. Thing to do is contact Yahoo about his dirty deeds – they will pull you off quick time.
If Larry had a brain, he would know that using someone else’s identity is against the law and likely against Yahoo policy.
I had decided last week that I was not going to reply to the antics of these folks like Larry, but – as a public service and as a favor to this young woman, I felt compelled to publish her commentary to me on this Blog. You decide.
RE: Larry Keels
Hello:I believe you were very kind to me when I requested to be removed from Larry's melungeon group, and he put me on the spot with some ridiculous question. Anyway, he did not release me from the group.
Yesterday, I made a second request to be removed, which he did not publish. Today, I find he has made a posting under my name (NNNNNNNNN) regarding the upcoming meeting on Oct 27. I did not write this post.
I am wondering how many posts Larry writes for his own group site and attributes them to other people. He also made a remark re Clara Belle. The only Clara Belle I know is Clara Belle the clown from the old Howdy Doody show.
Do you have any suggestions how I can get off this group? I would also like to alert people that Larry stoops so low to try and humiliate people. Someone suggested to me that this is bordering on identity theft, but I really don't think so. I've been trying to think of what it is exactly, but I can't put my finger on it.
If you want to put this on you blog it's OK with me.
Chris
If this does not show you what type of person he is, I do not know what would. If you have encountered this type of behavior anywhere, even if it is not Larry, let me know, and I will publish it.
Best,
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho (Mish-eh-ho)
Mishiho@aol.com
Wednesday, October 3, 2007
# -- A GOINS-- REDBONE MIGRATION
By Gary J. Gabehart
Recently, Harvey Morris, descendent of Spencer Morris ca. 1830's (husband of Caroline Goins), sent me an interesting interview by one of Henry Goins (son of Jeremiah Goins) daughters -- Callie Goins Edwards.
Her interview evolves around her "rearing" in Texas prior to the Civil War and her subsequent migration to Indian Territory (Oklahoma) in 1878 to visit with her mother Sarah Simmons Goins. Callie, also known as Catherine, born 1856 would have been about 22 years of age at the time of this trip.
Henry died in 1870 in Plesanton, Texas and it would appear that Callie remained in Texas after his death.
There are a number of points in this interview that are extremely important to the family and others that should be noted. First, the interview was taken in Oklahoma in 1937. Callie lived around Henryetta and was listed as a Choctaw Indian. The investigator lists her Grandfather as Jerry Goien. You will remember that in the Bevil Census, in Texas, Jeremiah was listed as Jerry.
Two things here, put them in the back of your mind, first Jeremiah seems to use the name Jerry quite often and second, his surname was recorded as GOIEN.
In her interview, Callie speaks of having a conversation with Patsy Hall of Mississippi where she was told that her Great Great Uncle, Jeremiah's uncle, "was with one of the first loads of Indians to come to this country (Oklahoma Indian Territory). She also mentions that they were driven like stock by the soldiers and when one of the old folks fell out, they left them where they fell.
Further, Callie states that, "My grandfather, was a Choctaw Indian but he didn't come with the soldiers. He came to Texas on his own accord so didn't suffer the hardships that the others who waited did."
Here, it is very plain that two groups of Goins came from Mississippi. One via Louisiana (Jerry Goins) and one from Mississippi to Indian Territory -- both families were directly related.
Callie stayed a year in Indian Territory and talked her mother into moving back to Texas, but after a year, abt. 1880-81, Callie, her mother Sarah Simmons Goins, and other family members left Texas again for Indian Territory.
Best,
Gary J Gabehart, Mishiho
Mishiho@aol.com
Recently, Harvey Morris, descendent of Spencer Morris ca. 1830's (husband of Caroline Goins), sent me an interesting interview by one of Henry Goins (son of Jeremiah Goins) daughters -- Callie Goins Edwards.
Her interview evolves around her "rearing" in Texas prior to the Civil War and her subsequent migration to Indian Territory (Oklahoma) in 1878 to visit with her mother Sarah Simmons Goins. Callie, also known as Catherine, born 1856 would have been about 22 years of age at the time of this trip.
Henry died in 1870 in Plesanton, Texas and it would appear that Callie remained in Texas after his death.
There are a number of points in this interview that are extremely important to the family and others that should be noted. First, the interview was taken in Oklahoma in 1937. Callie lived around Henryetta and was listed as a Choctaw Indian. The investigator lists her Grandfather as Jerry Goien. You will remember that in the Bevil Census, in Texas, Jeremiah was listed as Jerry.
Two things here, put them in the back of your mind, first Jeremiah seems to use the name Jerry quite often and second, his surname was recorded as GOIEN.
In her interview, Callie speaks of having a conversation with Patsy Hall of Mississippi where she was told that her Great Great Uncle, Jeremiah's uncle, "was with one of the first loads of Indians to come to this country (Oklahoma Indian Territory). She also mentions that they were driven like stock by the soldiers and when one of the old folks fell out, they left them where they fell.
Further, Callie states that, "My grandfather, was a Choctaw Indian but he didn't come with the soldiers. He came to Texas on his own accord so didn't suffer the hardships that the others who waited did."
Here, it is very plain that two groups of Goins came from Mississippi. One via Louisiana (Jerry Goins) and one from Mississippi to Indian Territory -- both families were directly related.
Callie stayed a year in Indian Territory and talked her mother into moving back to Texas, but after a year, abt. 1880-81, Callie, her mother Sarah Simmons Goins, and other family members left Texas again for Indian Territory.
Best,
Gary J Gabehart, Mishiho
Mishiho@aol.com
Tuesday, October 2, 2007
# 55 SERIES # 1 -- FIRST IN A SERIES -- RUEBEN CALVIN GOINS -- TEXAS RANGER, CONFEDERATE CAVALRYMAN, CHOCTAW INDIAN COWBOY -- REDBONE!
By Gary J. Gabehart
First in a series on Ruben Goins.
Rueben Calvin Goins b. 08 Aug 1837 Newton, Texas, d. 17 Jul 1930 Ardmore Oklahoma. Rueben/Ruben was the seventh son of Jeremiah M. Goins of Lawrence Mississippi and Sharafina Drake (Goins) of St. Martinsville, Louisiana.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of bum information out there on the Goins family for the unwary to stumble upon. The Gowen Manuscript itself is rife with supposition without citation and much of it proven, ancient mis-information (my opinion). However, the following commentary on Rueben/Ruben Calvin Goins will be the first on various Goins family members and should provide a more comprehensive insight to this Texas Pioneer -- Choctaw family.
The father of Ruben Goins was Jeremiah Goins/Goings who was born the son of Philip Goings & Ooti Montro, Grandson of Stephen Goings, in Lawrence Mississippi. It is believed that the family originated in Tennessee prior to Mississippi, but those references are vague as to just where.
I wouldn't make too much out of the surname spellings as they bounce back and forth throughout history. The elder Goins/Goings/Gowen/Goen/Goien/Gohens/Goyens and others likely could not read or write and were at the mercy of the scribe making the record -- had nothing to do with anyone being ashamed of the name -- just an urban legend.
So the story goes, Jeremiah Goins migrated to Louisiana from Mississippi where he met and married Sharafina Drake about 1820. But keep in mind, that migration is a big word, and it is likely, considering the distance, Jeremiah, I expect, was making the trip back and forth between the two areas routinely. Territory or later State lines, meant little to these folks, and it's not like there was a barrier here.
The Jeremiah Goins family left the Calcasieu, Louisiana area in the early 1830's, apparently bound for Texas. We know for instance, that Caroline Goins was born in Louisiana about 1830. Caroline again shows up on the Jasper, Texas or what is referred to as the Bevil District census in 1835 as a five year old child. Jeremiah is listed as 35 years and Sharafina age 28 years in this 1835 census. These ages agree pretty much with other estimated ages based on previous records of Sharafina Drake.
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/census/1835/1835jasp.txtJohnDroddy age 45 and his wife Elizabeth Hays 53, along with four children were also listed on this census. These were Redbone relations of Raymond Alexander "Houston" Bridges who were moving West into Texas. Other members of Raymond's Ashworth Family (quasi-Redbones by some accounts, as they had left Louisiana) previously moved into Texas (1820's and 1830's) from Louisiana.
(Fact of the matter is, Ray Bridges is a Texas Redbone by his own admission and had not returned to Louisiana for nearly 50 years. Prior to that, it was short summer visits, I'm just saying, you know).
These Ashworth's were the basis for the Texas Ashworth Act; however, some of this family was later driven out of Texas during the Orange County, Texas War of 1856, as being Murderers and Thieves, but -- some of it may have been political. This is another story for a later blog.
The next time we find the Goins family is in the 1850 Limestone, Texas census.
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/limestone/census/1850/1850cen1.txt
163 25 Goins Jeremiah 58 M I Farmer MS163 26 Goins Charity 58 F I LA
163 27 Goins Ransom 24 M I LA
163 28 Goins Sebern 22 M I LA
163 29 Goins Caroline 20 F I LA
163 30 Goins Robert 19 M I LA
163 31 Goins James 16 M I TX
163 32 Goins Robert 14 M I TX
163 33 Goins Reuben 13 M I TX
163 34 Goins Adaline 15 F I TX
163 35 Goins Emaly 9 F I TX
163 36 Goins Jerimiah 5 M I TX
163 37 Goins Mary 2 F I TX
* person # 30 was incorrectly listed as Robert Goins in this census and should have been listed as Rayborn Goins b. 1829 in Louisiana. During the enumeration process, it is unlikely that all members of the family were present and information was taken from any member who would give it -- correct or incorrect. As an enumeration supervisor, I've seen this first hand.
You will also note that Jeremiah has gained 8 years between the 1835 Bevil Census and the Limestone Census. Sharafina has gained 15 years in listed age since the Bevil Census. The squiggle marks in the race column mean only that the enumerator was confused.
Sebern/Seaborn/CB Goins was killed at San Saba in May of 1861 in a nighttime Indian attack. Henry Goins was listed in his own household in this 1850 census.
I had made a comment to a translator about the race thing as what appeared in that column prior to transcription was what resembled a small cursive "z." Some folks call it a small "y," but the truth of the matter is, in that year, neither was used. The transcriptionist changed it to Indian "I" and made a note at the top of the page.
First in a series on Ruben Calvin Goins -- More to follow.
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho (Mish-eh-ho)
Mishiho@Aol.com
Monday, October 1, 2007
# 54 -- THE SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH CONTINUES!
By Gary J. Gabehart
The search for the truth about "Free People of Color" (FPC) continues.
I refuse to be distracted by those annoying little gnats buzzing around on these bogus Redbone lists. Certainly, things are slowing down on the LV list; LV is being hard hit money wise on his attached advertising -- I might do it someday, but I'm more interested in research -- likely, it's chump change. As a side note, I have no aspirations of running for any office, so rave on LV, rave on!
Beverly Jackson? Well everyone knows Bev's home problems by now. So Beverly started a Redbone list, I'll concede that much, but whoop-ty-doo. I'll also allow that she failed to make it work -- maybe that's why she hates the RHF sites -- who knows? BTW, I'm heart broken that I will not get an invitation to her Gumbo Saurez -- maybe I should crash this soriee?
By now, you have seen the goofy postings on KPLC-TV Blog attacking individuals and beating their own Tom-Toms. Of course, attacking ideas and even research is usually fair game if there is something truly wrong with the idea, but attacking a "given" is bizarre behavior in any camp -- referring to people as "White" social workers is racist.
If you have a problem with an idea and attack it, and if you are serious in your beliefs, you should have a legitimate answer to the problem -- a fix so to speak. But enough, back to the discussion.
I think we can agree from Blog #52, that there is way more to "Free People of Color;" they certainly were not Black, and they were treated differently than Whites. This separation accounts for the word colored -- many colors in the case of FPC.
Now throw out the thought of Louisiana/FPC and start looking at the term Redbone as having started in the Carolina's -- maybe, even in Virginia. What did "Redbone" mean on the East Coast? You tell me!
Folks who I have spoken with, among them Dr. James Nickens, are adamant that the term back East referred to an Indian connection by blood [or by association-writers note]. Certainly, if not a slur, the term Redbone would have at least been considered a slang term of that era to describe a group of people. It likely could have been used to describe an area as well.
Now I do not have a citation for what I have described, but does everything have to have an exotic or mysterious explanation? What about an uncomplicated and simple answer? You tell me!
The FPC coffee can was the coffee can where Blacks and Whites did not go. Indians, Redbones, Cajuns, you name it went in the FPC coffee can. So if you are looking for a Moor connection or a Black Dutch connection or a Middle East connection, you're going to find those folks in the FPC file.
Thought just crossed my mind, "why is Larry Keels being so nosey about the Inter-Tribal Council of American Indians?" Sounds to me like someone loaded the White boys wagon and blew smoke up his black & Whie robe. LOL Google on Larry, even Indians have Hispanic names, don't the racists know about that?
But even when given the opportunity to contribute to Redbone history, Raymond Bridges (the self-aclaimed high profile member of the California Supreme Court), Larry (self-aclaimed member of the ? word), LV Hay -- yeah, yeah, I'll mention what's her name (I don't mean Joyce either), and even T-bone (Terry) Jackson lack the civility of providing any new research other than half-vicious racial slurs.
Best,
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho (Mish-eh-ho)
Mishiho@aol.com
The search for the truth about "Free People of Color" (FPC) continues.
I refuse to be distracted by those annoying little gnats buzzing around on these bogus Redbone lists. Certainly, things are slowing down on the LV list; LV is being hard hit money wise on his attached advertising -- I might do it someday, but I'm more interested in research -- likely, it's chump change. As a side note, I have no aspirations of running for any office, so rave on LV, rave on!
Beverly Jackson? Well everyone knows Bev's home problems by now. So Beverly started a Redbone list, I'll concede that much, but whoop-ty-doo. I'll also allow that she failed to make it work -- maybe that's why she hates the RHF sites -- who knows? BTW, I'm heart broken that I will not get an invitation to her Gumbo Saurez -- maybe I should crash this soriee?
By now, you have seen the goofy postings on KPLC-TV Blog attacking individuals and beating their own Tom-Toms. Of course, attacking ideas and even research is usually fair game if there is something truly wrong with the idea, but attacking a "given" is bizarre behavior in any camp -- referring to people as "White" social workers is racist.
If you have a problem with an idea and attack it, and if you are serious in your beliefs, you should have a legitimate answer to the problem -- a fix so to speak. But enough, back to the discussion.
I think we can agree from Blog #52, that there is way more to "Free People of Color;" they certainly were not Black, and they were treated differently than Whites. This separation accounts for the word colored -- many colors in the case of FPC.
Now throw out the thought of Louisiana/FPC and start looking at the term Redbone as having started in the Carolina's -- maybe, even in Virginia. What did "Redbone" mean on the East Coast? You tell me!
Folks who I have spoken with, among them Dr. James Nickens, are adamant that the term back East referred to an Indian connection by blood [or by association-writers note]. Certainly, if not a slur, the term Redbone would have at least been considered a slang term of that era to describe a group of people. It likely could have been used to describe an area as well.
Now I do not have a citation for what I have described, but does everything have to have an exotic or mysterious explanation? What about an uncomplicated and simple answer? You tell me!
The FPC coffee can was the coffee can where Blacks and Whites did not go. Indians, Redbones, Cajuns, you name it went in the FPC coffee can. So if you are looking for a Moor connection or a Black Dutch connection or a Middle East connection, you're going to find those folks in the FPC file.
Thought just crossed my mind, "why is Larry Keels being so nosey about the Inter-Tribal Council of American Indians?" Sounds to me like someone loaded the White boys wagon and blew smoke up his black & Whie robe. LOL Google on Larry, even Indians have Hispanic names, don't the racists know about that?
But even when given the opportunity to contribute to Redbone history, Raymond Bridges (the self-aclaimed high profile member of the California Supreme Court), Larry (self-aclaimed member of the ? word), LV Hay -- yeah, yeah, I'll mention what's her name (I don't mean Joyce either), and even T-bone (Terry) Jackson lack the civility of providing any new research other than half-vicious racial slurs.
Best,
Gary J. Gabehart, Mishiho (Mish-eh-ho)
Mishiho@aol.com
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